tea_and_ink: (bound to catch the heavens if they fall)
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Was re-re-re-re-n-watching Star Trek, as one does, with some friends and one of them made a comment along the lines of Uhura getting in the way for the Spock-Kirk dynamics to fully develop. Like, properly. And, well, you can imagine how well that one went over with me.

I mean, if we're gonna snuff Uhura for being in the way of Kirk becoming the Ultimate One and Only Emotional Link Spock has left in the Entire Universe (be it utter BFFness, The Mother of All Slash Under the Sun or simple OTP), then shouldn't we, being fair, also snuff McCoy for the very same reason? It doesn't gel with me, how it can be flagged as a feminist statement that she's stronger standing alone in her island, while the other three are off enjoying each other's company.

Why can't she be the third wheel (because I'm keeping my focus on the Kirk-Spock side of things here) of a perfectly balanced tricycle? Better yet, why can we not turn that tricycle into a four-by-four truck fitted for every terrain and every possible circumstance?

Wouldn't that create better possibilities for growth for all parties involved? Why would some have to be diminished, stuffed in the background, or downright extracted from the equation for others to fully and properly develop to their maximum?

Please do note that these are heat-of-the-moment half-formed thoughts, and the only reason why I'm not saving this entry for when I have actually shaped things into a more fit for society form is because my time is very limited these days, and I know myself well enough when it comes to this type of things to know that if I don't get it out now, it will never see the light of day.

Mostly I'm airing thoughts. Do you have any input?

Date: 2009-12-15 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xphoenixrising.livejournal.com
I think you're completely right. If this is the case, then what does this say about friends who end up getting married to other people?

Date: 2009-12-26 01:05 pm (UTC)
penandnotebook: (bound to catch the heavens if they fall)
From: [personal profile] penandnotebook
Exactly! If we were only able to have ONE single beloved one at a time, then we wouldn't be able to love our mothers, siblings and partners simultaneously.

It's just silly, I think.

Date: 2009-12-16 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildmachinery.livejournal.com
Better yet, why can we not turn that tricycle into a four-by-four truck fitted for every terrain and every possible circumstance?

because people are lazy and/or don't know how to write women-as-actual-people, i guess. character development whaat?

(but i love your humvee metaphor, it's beautiful.)

Date: 2009-12-27 10:11 pm (UTC)
penandnotebook: (one does not love breathing)
From: [personal profile] penandnotebook
i no rite?

Its like it's completely out of the physical realm of possibilities, so far out is even improbable, to have a female character able to do more than just one thing at a time, fill more than one role at a time. Let's not even begin on the idea of emotions being multifaceted, that might give them an aneurysm or something.

Date: 2009-12-17 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silver-spotted.livejournal.com
yes yes yes!

and oh, really, *Uhura* isn't the one in the way of the reboot!Kirk-Spock BBFness, that would be Kirk himself, with his attitude etc (that starts to be remedied by the end of the film of course). But part of being a friend is treating your friends' friend (or GF) nicely - which Kirk doesn't exactly do with Uhura. /ramble

Date: 2009-12-27 10:17 pm (UTC)
penandnotebook: (down the barrel of a winchester)
From: [personal profile] penandnotebook
let it all out, sister! don't hold back!

hahaha, yeah, he's kind of a tool with her, though I like to think that he was like that because she responded in kind, as in, it was the dynamic of their relationship, yanno? Maybe I'm just trying to redeem his jerk-ness a bit. It comes a point when too screwed up is just too screwed up.

Date: 2009-12-28 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silver-spotted.livejournal.com
I think he's actually more of a tool towards Spock, so like, Kirk is in the way of Kirk & Spock being friends. In the movie I think his relationship with Uhura is pretty ok (like you said, they respond in kind to each other) but if Kirk does want to be friends with Spock, then I agree with you, the development of that friendship has to involve a certain regard for Uhura :)

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