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tea_and_inkShould I still consider possible spoilers? I will, but only because I'm so awesome.
::wipes brow::
Man, I really need to learn the difference between meta, rambling, and episodic review... but then it wouldn't be me, I'd become some cold bitch. Or something.
P.S.: despite all the evidence to the contrary, I have not forgotten Sam, I'm actually working on a whole post dedicated to the guy. And then I will asksilver_spotted when was the last time we saw John's journal being the journal? Can't remember.
So, yeah. The episode was heavy on exposition, but it was made in a fairly painless way. I approve.
We were given a truckload of info this time around, what should we do about it? we dwell. We consider the parallel between Sam and the whole town (what was it?), maybe all it takes is a little nudge and Sam's humanity will give in to the demon blood's marking, maybe all it takes is a little conversation and that's that. Be back on this later.
This plot line is consistent with the one in 3.01, where we saw the Seven Deadlies possessing people that already had a certain inclination towards them. It's human nature, we can say all we like about being above animals and all that's very nice, but still. All it took Casey was a conversation and the whole town was there to indulge into all kinds of excesses. But where's the line? Where does religion come in? I disagree with Andy (remember the guy that killed himself in the church during the opening?), it's not that God had deserted them, it's not that He didn't care, is free will in full work. Casey used that free will, sure, she "gave them a nudge in the right direction" but that's demons for you, that's where Andy was wrong, god is not going to nudge in any direction, options will be presented and you will make your choice. Simple.
I think this principle also applies to demons. See, if they are fallen angels, it means they fell because they choose to. They too were presented with the choice and they choose to fall from grace and keep their pride (funny how Pride is the sin of Angels, of all of them). According to Casey they, the demons, worship Lucifer as their god because of his enabling them to make that choice. And it's also interesting how things change with perspective, if I'm not mistaken, the Bible says something along the lines of God banishing these rebels from Heaven because Lucifer (who happened to be God's favorite, go figure) wanted to be like God Himself (details are kinda fuzzy right now, age seems to be taking it's toll on me), other sources claim that the rebel angels fell from grace because they refused to respect humans' free will, I've also read somewhere (dammit, where are my sources?) that it was due to this rebellion that humans' got a free will at all. So that Casey says that Lucifer fell because he refused to bow before lower creatures makes sense and also adds to the mystique of the whole thing, but, you know, this is me geeking out ::waves:: in a completely irrelevant subject.
Moving on, then. It's all about that human duality, man's capacity to do good or evil. I love that this show is not afraid to go there, we've seen a mother drowning her offspring, we've seen Sam killing and enjoying it (Jake, at least), and then we have Dean, who committed the ultimate sacrifice, for the most selfish of reasons. Now, we see humans as the potential scumbags we really are, is all there and all it takes is a little suggestion a situation that condones it, and we're gone over.
Back to the episode. I've read in some reviews that Ruby's statement that she's Sam's "little fallen angel" means she's Lucifer him(her?)self and they expect to get a good look at this Lucy guy because that would rock, and this is where I disagree with that portion of fandom, I don't think that'd be a good idea, in fact, it would diminish the significance of the whole thing; so what? demons get to have a god we can see and touch and all, whereas the rest of us have to cling to an idea? doesn't seem fair, plus it takes away from Casey and her motivations, her belief, it belittles her feelings about it. And I kinda respect Casey too much, she was a demon but we could identify with her to the point of regretting her death. And also? if Ruby does turn out to be some sort of Dark Lord of Hell, I will be so sorely disappointed I might even drop the entire show for at least two episodes.
Dean wonders. Dean is scared but he wouldn't undo what he's done because it gives him a reason to be, it justifies his existence. Dean is so screwed up. But still he wonders, I'm glad we're seeing some of this shine through, the character has not been flattened (idea that some insist upon), he still has the same depth, we're just seeing it from a different angle, in S2 Dean was a mess, he was a desperate mess, he had the burden of having to save his brother, he didn't see any other possibilities, Sam had to survive unscathed, he just had to (which lead to the Deal), and then there was John's sacrifice of which Dean did not consider himself worthy. The guy was the worse for wear and so his antics were defined by those events he just. Couldn't. Handle. S3 gives us a Dean that's scared, still tired and still wishing it could all just be over, but he has a comfort now he did not have before, he knows when it will end, for him at least, he knows how and why. Sure, he's wondering, he's possibly terrified of what it'll be like, but he doesn't regret it. And that is entirely in character with Dean's emotional depth. As much as I liked the angst arc of last season, I believe you don't need emotional porn in order to press the point.
Hi Bobby! I really wanna know what did Ruby tell Bobby about Sam, how did she get him to trust her enough to let her help with the Colt, maybe the gun didn't kill her the first time, but still, that's not enough to get me to trust a demon. Did she dangle Dean's salvation in front of him too? Did she tell him some a la John secret about Sammy? (which, I don't think so, but it's possible) What happened there? Btw, so much love for that initial scene with Dean and Bobby working on the gun and then Sammy being insensitive and Dean taking advantage of it, the relationship here is that of equals, this is not John who, no matter what, was their father and would always see the boys as his boys; Bobby knows and trusts them enough to treat them like the seasoned hunters they are. And they trust Bobby enough to joke around with him, to call him when need be. ::draws manly heart::
Kudos to fandom for calling out the Azazel mystery! Lotsa love. Reminds me of that time when people were theorizing Meg was possessed. Ah, good ol' times.
What I didn't like though, was the nun's scream, fakest fake-scream ever! And Katie Cassidy's lucky she's pretty, because as far as I've seen her acting range is not really that wide. Why was she casted as Ruby, again?
Congratulations, if you're reading these lines, and have actually reached them by natural course of reading as opposed to scrolling down to see when it would end, you deserve a cookie. Or ten.
We were given a truckload of info this time around, what should we do about it? we dwell. We consider the parallel between Sam and the whole town (what was it?), maybe all it takes is a little nudge and Sam's humanity will give in to the demon blood's marking, maybe all it takes is a little conversation and that's that. Be back on this later.
This plot line is consistent with the one in 3.01, where we saw the Seven Deadlies possessing people that already had a certain inclination towards them. It's human nature, we can say all we like about being above animals and all that's very nice, but still. All it took Casey was a conversation and the whole town was there to indulge into all kinds of excesses. But where's the line? Where does religion come in? I disagree with Andy (remember the guy that killed himself in the church during the opening?), it's not that God had deserted them, it's not that He didn't care, is free will in full work. Casey used that free will, sure, she "gave them a nudge in the right direction" but that's demons for you, that's where Andy was wrong, god is not going to nudge in any direction, options will be presented and you will make your choice. Simple.
I think this principle also applies to demons. See, if they are fallen angels, it means they fell because they choose to. They too were presented with the choice and they choose to fall from grace and keep their pride (funny how Pride is the sin of Angels, of all of them). According to Casey they, the demons, worship Lucifer as their god because of his enabling them to make that choice. And it's also interesting how things change with perspective, if I'm not mistaken, the Bible says something along the lines of God banishing these rebels from Heaven because Lucifer (who happened to be God's favorite, go figure) wanted to be like God Himself (details are kinda fuzzy right now, age seems to be taking it's toll on me), other sources claim that the rebel angels fell from grace because they refused to respect humans' free will, I've also read somewhere (dammit, where are my sources?) that it was due to this rebellion that humans' got a free will at all. So that Casey says that Lucifer fell because he refused to bow before lower creatures makes sense and also adds to the mystique of the whole thing, but, you know, this is me geeking out ::waves:: in a completely irrelevant subject.
Moving on, then. It's all about that human duality, man's capacity to do good or evil. I love that this show is not afraid to go there, we've seen a mother drowning her offspring, we've seen Sam killing and enjoying it (Jake, at least), and then we have Dean, who committed the ultimate sacrifice, for the most selfish of reasons. Now, we see humans as the potential scumbags we really are, is all there and all it takes is a little suggestion a situation that condones it, and we're gone over.
Back to the episode. I've read in some reviews that Ruby's statement that she's Sam's "little fallen angel" means she's Lucifer him(her?)self and they expect to get a good look at this Lucy guy because that would rock, and this is where I disagree with that portion of fandom, I don't think that'd be a good idea, in fact, it would diminish the significance of the whole thing; so what? demons get to have a god we can see and touch and all, whereas the rest of us have to cling to an idea? doesn't seem fair, plus it takes away from Casey and her motivations, her belief, it belittles her feelings about it. And I kinda respect Casey too much, she was a demon but we could identify with her to the point of regretting her death. And also? if Ruby does turn out to be some sort of Dark Lord of Hell, I will be so sorely disappointed I might even drop the entire show for at least two episodes.
Dean wonders. Dean is scared but he wouldn't undo what he's done because it gives him a reason to be, it justifies his existence. Dean is so screwed up. But still he wonders, I'm glad we're seeing some of this shine through, the character has not been flattened (idea that some insist upon), he still has the same depth, we're just seeing it from a different angle, in S2 Dean was a mess, he was a desperate mess, he had the burden of having to save his brother, he didn't see any other possibilities, Sam had to survive unscathed, he just had to (which lead to the Deal), and then there was John's sacrifice of which Dean did not consider himself worthy. The guy was the worse for wear and so his antics were defined by those events he just. Couldn't. Handle. S3 gives us a Dean that's scared, still tired and still wishing it could all just be over, but he has a comfort now he did not have before, he knows when it will end, for him at least, he knows how and why. Sure, he's wondering, he's possibly terrified of what it'll be like, but he doesn't regret it. And that is entirely in character with Dean's emotional depth. As much as I liked the angst arc of last season, I believe you don't need emotional porn in order to press the point.
Hi Bobby! I really wanna know what did Ruby tell Bobby about Sam, how did she get him to trust her enough to let her help with the Colt, maybe the gun didn't kill her the first time, but still, that's not enough to get me to trust a demon. Did she dangle Dean's salvation in front of him too? Did she tell him some a la John secret about Sammy? (which, I don't think so, but it's possible) What happened there? Btw, so much love for that initial scene with Dean and Bobby working on the gun and then Sammy being insensitive and Dean taking advantage of it, the relationship here is that of equals, this is not John who, no matter what, was their father and would always see the boys as his boys; Bobby knows and trusts them enough to treat them like the seasoned hunters they are. And they trust Bobby enough to joke around with him, to call him when need be. ::draws manly heart::
Kudos to fandom for calling out the Azazel mystery! Lotsa love. Reminds me of that time when people were theorizing Meg was possessed. Ah, good ol' times.
What I didn't like though, was the nun's scream, fakest fake-scream ever! And Katie Cassidy's lucky she's pretty, because as far as I've seen her acting range is not really that wide. Why was she casted as Ruby, again?
Congratulations, if you're reading these lines, and have actually reached them by natural course of reading as opposed to scrolling down to see when it would end, you deserve a cookie. Or ten.
::wipes brow::
Man, I really need to learn the difference between meta, rambling, and episodic review... but then it wouldn't be me, I'd become some cold bitch. Or something.
P.S.: despite all the evidence to the contrary, I have not forgotten Sam, I'm actually working on a whole post dedicated to the guy. And then I will ask
silver_spotted when was the last time we saw John's journal being the journal? Can't remember.
